into something. >> there's the point that's been made repeatedly, the surgical strike is a result of chemical weapons that perhaps killed we don't know how many, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, when we've had 100,000 casualties already stacked up. >> it's the precedent, the use of weapons of mass destruction. you're right, from the narrow point of view, the fact that 100,000 people have died with convention munition, outweighs that 1,000 people may have died from chemical munitions. that's humanitarian. what the administration is saying, we don't like what's going on there but we're not going to get involved for all these reasons. we are concerned simply about this precedent and not allowing it to stand. >> you also, speaking of presidents, you have the president of the united states who, two years ago, thomas, said assad must go. one year ago, as charles points out today, he drew a red line in the sand. >> correct. >> then he erased that red line in the sand. then he drew another red line in the sand. the president right now is not being helped by these leaks.